Original Gangster
Tom Hanks really isn't a nice guy in Road to Perdition. Really. Movie: Road
to Perdition
Director: Sam
Mendes
Starring: Paul
Newman, TomHanks, Tyler Hoechlin, Jennifer JasonLeigh, Jude Law.
Distributor: DreamWorks
Pictures
Can you get any more famous than Tom Hanks? Who else could
turn a movie about a guy talking to a volleyball into a $200-million blockbuster?
People just like the guy, whether he's goofing off in the screwball comedies
of the ‘80s, making out with Zorro in Philadelphia or just sitting on
a bench for two hours in Forrest Gump.
In his latest move, Road to Perdition, Hanks plays
hit man Mike Sullivan, who works for Mr. Rooney (Paul Newman), the leader of
an Irish Mafia branch in 1930s Chicago. When Sullivan's son witnesses dad on
the job, the mob wants to shut the boy up permanently. So, father and son take
a road trip where they bond over murders and armed robberies. It's like a Hallmark
card, only bloodier.
When Hanks went to Chicago to premiere the film, we
interviewed him the next day at the Ritz Carlton Hotel. Despite playing
a violent character, Hanks presented a nice guy persona to the press. When a
waitress brought cream but forgot the coffee, Hanks joked, "There's nothing
better than a good bottle of cream." There's always that hint of a twinge when
he enunciates, so even when he's talking about something serious, you imagine
him screaming, "There's no crying in baseball!"
The Wave: Was playing
this violent character a way to change your nice guy image?
Tom Hanks: You can't change an image. Your image is your image.
The only thing that matters is the tangible connection that the audience makes
with a movie when they see it. I understand how this would seem like a Hail
Mary pass to do something different, but it's not a calculated choice. If I
wanted to, there's a million other movies I'd do that would've been a much more
blatant attempt to change an "image," but that's not nearly as important as
the connection that you're going to make with people when they see the movie.
When I did The Green Mile, I said, "Look, I play an executioner. It's
a different role for me." People said, "Yeah, but you're a really nice executioner."
Okay, all right, I guess I was. I kill like 15 people in this movie and already
people are saying, "Yeah, but you do it for really good reasons." All right,
I guess I do. Somebody called me an assassin with a heart of gold or something
like that.
TW: Would you ever play a total villain?
TH: I think
I do in this movie. But the idea of playing a total villain just to be the antagonist
to the protagonist is boring. Even Iago [in Shakespeare's Othello] has
all these motivations for what he's doing. You could say, "This guy is just
a family man," but look at the family. Look at the house he's protecting. He
doesn't come home and play ball with the kids. That is the darkest, scariest,
most dysfunctional house you've ever seen. This is what he's going off to seek
retribution for?
TW: Could you
relate to the darkness of this guy? Do you have to relate to a character to
play him?
TH: Well, I
would never see myself robbing banks per se, but I could see being very angry.
They don't have to be like me but I have to understand their motivations. That's
the main thing. The opportunity to play the "Villain" with a capital V, like
a James Bond villain - "Before I kill you Mr. Bond, perhaps you would like a
tour of my installation." The idea of world dominance or "I want to be the biggest
cocaine dealer85" I don't get it. When motivation is involved, that's where
I can see myself wanting to do these things.
TW: They say
working with children and animals are the most dreaded difficulties of filmmaking.
Did you find working with 13-year-old Tyler Hoechlin, who'd never acted before,
difficult?
TH: I think
he did a Hot Wheels commercial at one point. You go through a lot of trouble
making those Hot Wheels commercials. I'm sorry, I'm joking. You end up treating
kids with the same respect you would anybody else. You want to help him do his
job and you don't want to get in his way, but also you have to keep things fresh
and easy and relaxed, so things will be natural when the time comes. It's weird,
though, because a part of me also has to get past the idea that I'm spending
more time with my fake kid than I am with my real kids.
TW: How do
you hold your own with a legend like Paul Newman?
TH: Right off
the bat, I was like, "P-P-P-P-Paul N-N-N-N-Newman?" He's a very relaxed guy.
He'd be pissed off if I were to wax eloquent about what an honor it was to work
with him. But in our first scene together, there was a moment when I walked
into the shot and we looked each other in the eyes. The first take was like,
"I'm looking Paul Newman in the eyes and now I've got to go get in a car with
Paul Newman." I had a little bit of an out-of-body experience there, but that
was the only one.
TW: You can
still get impressed
like that?
TH: Sure, yes,
you bet, constantly. Anybody, if I haven't met them and I've seen their movies,
whether they're young or old or what have you, I'm completely intimidated or
impressed. I don't know what to say. I don't know how to say, "Boy, I really
like your movie." I don't know how to do that.
TW: Was Sam
Mendes different from other directors you've worked with for having only made
one movie previously?
TH: With Mr. Mendes, if you make a good movie, you make
a good movie. We were actually ragging on him because Paul would talk about
making The Long Hot Summer or something. I'd talk about making some movie.
We'd turn to Sam and say, "So Sam, based on your one film, would you say that
the industry has changed since85" like that. He was very pragmatic about it.
The other thing, too, is you have [cinematographer] Conrad Hall making his 97th
movie or something like that. We're in relatively good shape as far as the pedigree
involved.
TW: What's your most underrated movie?
TH: Oh, geez, Turner and Hooch. I don't know. Are any
of them underrated? It seems every one of them is so examined. They have all
these handbooks, So and So's Guide to Film and Video. Every stinking
movie is critiqued and you can't escape.
Nothing disappears. They're all rated and most of them are rated with
two stars.
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